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Features - Polini XP4T

This little beaut just arrived yesterday (2-5-07) in the -11 degree weather of northeast Wisconsin. No riding today, we're talking months. Soon to come will be a complete test report on rideability, power, handling, and very important, durability. Remember, I'm not a 14 year old (that was 30 years ago, do the math) so this bike will be adult (at least) ridden and the impression will be accordingly. Click Polini to check out their website and their specifications on this bike. This bike was purchased at Rock River Powersports in Jefferson WI

****Riding impression from Fall of '07. ****

Best features of this bike are the brakes, and the ergos. Top notch. Hydraulic Disc brakes have good feel and bring the bike down nicely. Good thing because you can get around a track at a pretty decent clip on this bike. After I slow down for a corner, I can plant myself on the bike nicely and get around it real well, get on the gas good and give it a little clutch help if I need it, and it often does because the power is a little soft.

Suspension is good, but could be so much better. There's plenty of travel, and it doesn't bottom out on the track that I ride, but the action is "springy". You move through the travel quickly, and if it had adjustments I would slow down the compression and rebound, but there are not any adjustments. After riding a little while though, you get used to it and then it's real nice. No harshness at all, but it moves quick and soaks up quite a bit.

Now for some bad news, my bike is a puffer. I blows smoke after it warms up, and blows it quite a bit. Not like a blown up motor, but way more than it should and it's noticeable. Everybody that has watched me ride has commented on it, and yesterday I looked and it was not a cloud or anything, but a definite noticeable puff every time I cracked the throttle. I tore the top end off today and don't see anything obvious. Its Sunday, so I have everything packed up to bring to the bike shop tomorrow and see if its valves, or excessive piston and/or ring clearance. I have a call into the shop I bought it from to see if they will do anything for me.

Durability is still good. I've got about 5 good hard rides on it and everything has held up.

*** Riding impression from spring of '07.***

This little guy is the bomb. Power is pleasant, but don't take that bad, it does not mean slow. Here's the scoop, it has linear power with a good low end, and smooth progression all the way up to a good over rev. I'm not talking knock your socks off power, but very decent, pleasant (I know, twice now) power. The 4 speed tranny has perfect ratios for the power this bike has. Huge bonus over KLX110's is this is a 1 down, 3 up, 4 speed tranny. Your KLX (DRZ) has 3up, just like a fiddy, and first is super low. First gear on the Polini is pretty low also, but not super low. Second and third are the main gears, and if you click into fourth your going along pretty good. It's not fifth gear tapped on your 450, but it's moving right along.

I can't stress the gearbox/power combination, along with a perfect working manual clutch enough. This bike could be a great woods warrior. You can lay it into soft corners, throttle up and if you need just a touch more pull, give the clutch a little tug and it's there. On Fugs tight little track we had to cut out a sloppy corner and slice through some tight trees, and that's where this bike shined. Not that is sucks on the open track, it just didn't have anything more than the KLX110's on the open range, but the fine mesh of smooth working accompaniments made this bike very fun to ride in all situations.

Suspension is pretty darn decent also. Fugs track only has one big launch we call the "Holy Schmidt" in honor of our favorite midwest lost soldier. This bike gave me the confidence to clear about a 15' jump off a pretty peaky/rutty launch. The bike tracked straight, jumped with confidence, and soaked up the landing very well.  I'm a buck fiddy in weight, and I had the rear shock on the soft setting and I think I could have used the stiffer mounting hole. We'll try that next time, but set up the way it was it worked just fine. Fugs track is not a suspension torture test, it's more of a corning and accelerating track where smoothness will gain you tenths of a second, and you'll need all of them when the pack comes rolling around.

Durability-wise, the first day had no issues. The bike puffed a little smoke that we all noticed, and the smell was tranny oil. It ran great, but we can tell it's getting a little oil up past the piston rings. I'm going to keep riding it, and if and when I get energetic this summer I'll pull off the cylinder and check things out. This is not that out of the ordinary, I've had this happen with many of my mini 4 strokes. I rev them out a little and don't give them much of a break, and these little 4 poppers are maybe not meant for hard riding for long periods of time. The air cooled bike didn't seem to overheat, and never lost power over the duration of our motos, and we put in a few 20 minute-ers. Clutch play never changed, and the tranny kept shifting nice and smooth. I don't ride the heck out the clutch, I just tug it when I need it out of almost every corner.

Brakes are another big bragging point. Hydraulic discs front and rear. Your KLX (DRZ) has drums unless you've upgraded. You might this it's overkill on a mini bike, but the added stopping power comes in handy. Here's the deal, discs give you more stopping power than you really need, so you can pull (or push) lightly on the levers to get what you need instead of grabbing a handful. When you can operate with a light touch, you can finess instead of bull dogging. My fiddies all have drums and I have absolutely no issues with them, but I tell you, hydraulic discs are very nice.

So, final words are that I like this bike very much. I have an XR80 that I stiffened up the suspension on hoping that, with the larger wheel size, would be the answer for mini mayhem. It's not, because of the slack head angle and soft (stock but rebuilt motor) power just doesn't get you around the track good enough. The Polini has a perfect head angle, aggressive riding position with all the controls right where they should be. Lever play was perfect, nothing loose or sloppy, and everything worked the way you'd hope it would. Equal power to a KLX110, but better gears and a manual clutch. A stock KLX wouldn't hold a candle to this bike, but the bikes I ride with have high end suspension fitted up, and we were all pretty much dead even around the track. 

To bring a KLX (DRZ) up to the standards of this bike you need beefed up suspension front and rear, a manual clutch, and disc brakes front and rear, and you still have your 3 up tranny. But on the other hand, you have proven durability. The Polini is still under scrutiny for that.

Let me know what you think of all this at info@50ccracing.com

When I was looking into buying this, I couldn't really find any good pictures, so here's a bunch. This thing is stone stock, and will stay that way for a while. Not a scratch on 'er yet. Just wait.

We've got lots to compare it to, Fug has a KLX 110 that he's building up the suspension and motor on, Matt has a KLX110 with a 143 kit, but stock suspension. That's a treat to ride, brings you back to reality on why you don't put an XR650 motor in your mini bike. And we have a stable on hopped up TTR 90's (110's) and XR/CRF50 (88's).

XR/CRF 50's are great fun, and I love riding a clean running, sweet handling fiddy, but peer pressure and curiosity has brought me to this purchase. No deals were cut, so I won't hesitate to slam this thing into next week if it sucks.

HOP UPS???!!?? be careful!! This engine similar to a Honda 50, but it has differences. You can't just buy a Honda 50 cam and put it in this bike. The cam chain sprocket has a different size guide hole, and it has a 3 bolt attachment where a fiddy is 2. Cam bearings are different also. The cylinder stud pattern is the same, and perhaps you could exchange a complete cylinder/head/piston combo, but the cam chain length would have to be the same. It probably is. Not sure of the stroke length on this, and how it compares to a fiddy. All things that would need to be considered. For sure a Honda exhaust pipe will not work because of the way you would need to snake through the frame. Maybe this engine is a closer copy of a Honda 70.

Stock power is pretty good, but not jaw dropping. Nice and torquey 107cc power plant that has a good spread of power from idle all the way up to a decent rev out. No hard hit, no flat spot, no burbling, just nice decent power. First gear is real low, but second picks up nice, and third and fourth and real good and spaced well. It lights right up on the first or second kick, and idles right along forever. Appears to have very good carburation.

www.polini.com is the European (Italian) website, and on that site is an English description of a Polini manufactured high performance XP4. http://uk.polini.www.portal.tradenet.it/pages_268.html Don't know about it's availability, or if it's the best choice for high performance. Anybody out there? Let me know at info@50ccracing.com

this is from the PoliniUSA message board, and talks about the Polini brand hop-ups and more. http://www.poliniusa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=376  and http://www.poliniusa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=264 and http://www.poliniusa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23

This thread talks about using a Paioli shock from an X3 and your XP4 spring. That shock is adjustable. http://www.poliniusa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1739&highlight=#1739

Specification worth noting: 107cc 4-stroke, two valve engine. 22mm Mikuni Carb. 4 speed manual clutch, 1 down, 3 up pattern. 138 lbs, 30.5" seat height. It's bigger than a KLX110, but smaller than a KX85.

Points that I've noticed just by looking at it closely:

1. The steering head/frame junction looks well built and sturdy. It appears they have some good triangulation built into the head, and rear motor mount design. Looks like all you can get out of an open cradle frame concept. Frame is steel, it's just painted aluminum color.

2. Brakes are front and rear hydraulic disc setup. Feel and power are fantastic. No complaints.

3. Front forks look beefy, and have a good feel just from pushing down in my kitchen. Rear shock is a non linkage design. I don't see any adjusters for dampening or rebound on the front or back. Looks like you can adjust the spring in the rear, and change the oil viscosity and level in the front. Polini offers aftermarket products if you have a boat load of cash. I'll tweak the stockers first.

Also, the rear shock has two different mounts on the swingarm. I connected the shock to both, and the upper hole delivers a noticeably stiffer rear feel. No riding impressions yet, but you get a choice it looks like. Seat height is identical with both, except the stiffer setup sits higher.

4. Ergonomics feel very nice, the skin stayed on my tailbone now so I can give it a break from the hunched up fiddy.

5. I see radiator shrouds, but no radiators. This is an air cooled engine based off of the Honda 50/70 motor. I've heard you can bolt up your XR/CRF motor in the motor mounts. You'd loose the manual clutch though, unless you have that.

6. Bike has a manual clutch and 4 speeds.  No problem getting it into neutral, and with a firm pull on the shifter you get a positive shift. Not a buttery smooth tranny, but works well.

7. Bike also has a very nice looking folding shift lever, and it has enough room to fit an adult boot in there.

8. Bike also has an unusually cheesy looking stamped rear brake pedal connected to a very trick looking rear hydraulic disc. Spring return works great on the pedal, but brings it back up to hit the engine. WHAT???? Yes, the rear brake pedal upper stop is the engine kick starter boss. Their lowest paid engineer came up with this one. I'm going to wrap the pedal lever with some rubber, or at least grind it so the pedal isn't sharp to try to keep it from damaging the engine.

9. Air filter looks very good.  The element has plenty of surface area, and looks like it will come out of the box without dropping dirt in the boot.

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